Growing Late Spring Nucs

Purpose

Last year we had four nucs left over and for years I have wanted to try a few things to see how these late nucs would fare. We will use nine frames in each second.

  1. We often get questions from people worried that their nucs will not grow to be strong enough to overwinter. Our early spring nucs are moved into singles at the end of May. Our late spring nucs are moved to singles the last week June. Our experimental nucs were moved into singles on July 6.
  2. It is generally accepted that bees will do better on built comb rather than foundation. We filled two of the singles with foundation and two with built comb. Built out comb is often hard to find for the starter beekeeper.
  3. We us a technique, expanding the brood nest, to encourage the bees and queen to enlarge the brood nest. This involves adding new frames between the established brood nest. The hive must be strong enough, with enough bees, to cover the new frames or you risk chilling the established brood.

The Nucs

Nuc Experiment First Nuc
Nuc Experiment First Nuc
Nuc Experiment Second Nuc
Nuc Experiment Second Nuc
Nuc Experiment Third Nuc
Nuc Experiment Third Nuc
Nuc Experiment Fourth Nuc
Nuc Experiment Fourth Nuc

The Queens

The queens are North Star, imported from Ontario. Queens one to three are marked, four is not.

Nuc Experiment Queen One
Nuc Experiment Queen One
Nuc Experiment Queen Two
Nuc Experiment Queen Two
Nuc Experiment Queen Three
Nuc Experiment Queen Three
Nuc Experiment Queen Four
Nuc Experiment Queen Four

July 6th, Moving to Singles

We moved the nucs into singles in the following order.

1. On foundation, No Brood Expansion

The foundation frames are marked with an F. We are adding 5 frames of foundation are the four frames from the nuc. It is important to keep the frames in the same orientation they were in in the nuc. It is also important to keep the foundation frames close together as if they are spaced, the bees may build comb between the frames rather than on its surface.

Nuc One Brood Frame One
Nuc One Brood Frame One
Nuc One Brood Frame Two
Nuc One Brood Frame Two
First Prepared Single
First Prepared Single
First Nuc Moved to Single
First Nuc Moved to Single

2. On Foundation, Brood Expansion

The foundation frames are marked with an F. We are adding 5 frames of foundation are the four frames from the nuc. This time we are placing one frame of foundation in the middle. The brood frames will go against the middle frame and the feed frames will go on the outside.

Nuc Two Brood Frame One
Nuc Two Brood Frame One
Nuc Two Brood Frame Two
Nuc Two Brood Frame Two
Second Prepared Single
Second Prepared Single
Second Nuc Moved to Single
Second Nuc Moved to Single

3. On Drawn, No Brood Expansion

This single is set up similar to number one except we are using drawn comb instead of foundation. Somehow I misplaced the image of once it was transferred. You get the idea.

Nuc Three Brood Frame One
Nuc Three Brood Frame One
Nuc Three Brood Frame Two
Nuc Three Brood Frame Two
Third Prepared Single
Third Prepared Single
Nuc Experiment Third Nuc
Nuc Experiment Third Nuc

4. On Drawn, Brood Expansion

This single is set up similar to number two except we are using drawn comb instead of foundation. Somehow I misplaced the image of once it was transferred, again. You get the idea.

Nuc Four Brood Frame One
Nuc Four Brood Frame One
Nuc Four Brood Frame Two
Nuc Four Brood Frame Two
Fourth Prepared Single
Fourth Prepared Single
Nuc Experiment Fourth Nuc
Nuc Experiment Fourth Nuc

Inspections

The expanded hives were inspected on July 13, July 31, and August 31. July 13, one week after they were expanded the bees are moving out onto the new frames. This is just at the start of the flow and we are not feeding them, other than the supplement polled feeder. July 31, about two and a half weeks after expansion, the flow is on and so are the bees. August 31, the flow is over and we are impressed with the progress they have made.

July 13

Hive One July 13
Hive One July 13
Hive Two July 13
Hive Two July 13
Hive Three July 13
Hive Three July 13
Hive Four July 13
Hive Four July 13

The bees are drawing the foundation and the queen is starting to lay in it.

Frame is Being Drawn
Frame is Being Drawn
Queen Laying in Partially Drawn Comb
Queen Laying in Partially Drawn Comb

July 31

The hives are looking good. We added a second brood chamber with drawn comb. It is probably too late to ask the bees to draw out a full box of foundation. If absolutely necessary, a box of drawn comb with a few frames of foundation would be ok. Space each frame between drawn comb.

Hive One July 31
Hive One July 31
Hive Two July 31
Hive Two July 31
Hive Three July 31
Hive Three July 31
Hive Four July 31
Hive Four July 31

The bees have drawn and filled the outer foundation. The brood on the inner frames now takes up the entire frame.

Drawn Foundation with Honey
Drawn Foundation with Honey
Brood Frame
Brood Frame

We did find a queen cell in hive one, threatening to swarm. I suspect they were feeling crowded because they could not build out the foundation fast enough for the queen to lay as much as she wanted. This could be one disadvantage to using foundation.

August 31

The flow is over. All four hives have pretty much filled the second box, mostly with honey and a little brood. The hives are really close in strength. These hives did not make any excess honey that we could harvest, a consequence of starting them so late.

Second Box on Aug 31
Second Box on Aug 31

October 15

Time for winter wrapping. We fed the hives with sugar syrup and they have had their oxalic vapor treatments. The hives have increased in population and are looking quite good. We have every hope that they will make it through the winter and do really well next year. We will let you know.

Takeaways

This was not a scientific undertaking by any means but I was surprised by how little difference there was in the development of these four hives. Neither expanding the brood nest or using foundation seemed to make a difference in the progression of the hives. I will add another section once we can open the hives and see how the managed the winter.


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